How did you come up with this statistic? Can you provide a source to support it?
"As of 2021, 53.7% of Americans have a college degree. "
It is my casual understanding that according to the US Census estimates as of 2020 that the estimated total is that approximately 37+% of the workforce population (approx. 160,000,000) has a college degree; which works out to approx. 18% of the overall population all together.
A new report from the Lumina Foundation shows that the percentage of working age adults who’ve earned a college degree or other postsecondary credential reached 53.7% in 2021.
According to Lumina’s updated A Stronger Nation, the foundation’s online, interactive tool tracking postsecondary educational attainment, that figure represents a nearly 2 percentage point gain over 2019’s level of 51.9%, and it’s the highest number since the organization began keeping tabs on educational attainment levels more than a decade ago.
If you doubt the report,please send your sources. But I don't make up numbers out of the blue. Perhaps you have evidence to show me the report is inaccurate. But there are many reports to show that close to 30% of those with a degree are making no more than $60 grand p/yr. Averages are severely skewered, as are all averages and always make it seem more are making more than do.
Just want to let you know I am working my way through the Census Bureau information at this time and I will let you know my findings soon. I will say with regards to the Lumina Foundation that it is a private organization and their information includes Certificates, which are not Degrees and I have questions about their methodology and whether or not they have included the numbers of persons who have some college education but have not completed a degree program.
For my part I prioritize the developed information of the Census Bureau over and above any private organization and consider the Census Bureau's studies to be a more accurate and complete presentation of educational attainment within the USA.
My question and brief statement should not be construed as being in opposition to anything you are suggesting; but rather I suspect that me and you have some of the same types of concerns. The issue at hand has been of interest to me for several years now and your post has simply served as a motivator for me to delve into the matter once and for all. In fact I am actively considering writing a post for my own Substack that will focus on this particular area of interest.
Okay fine. I have never used any data from the Lumina Foundation before, and I will not swear their information is totally accurate. I believe you are correct about certificates not being the same as a degree. I have two certificates from the same institution I received my A.B. from (B.A, they reverse it, I know not why. I wanted to do some advanced studies and they accommodated me and I received my certificates with the degree. But all the certificates do is say I did the study but they don't qualify me for anything. I got them to improve my chances of getting a full ride for graduate school. I did get accepted, but not the full scholarship, so I didn't have the means to attend. I don't know what value a certificate would be without a degree however.
Or if you're Rand Paul and failed to be certified to become a dentist, I guess you can certify yourself (and start your own certification program---don't know if that's quite the same thing. ) Anyway I will check out the Lumina Foundation and let me know what other information you find out. However, the 2020 census was never completed, Trump shut it down before it was completed, so it might have some gaps. My guess is more than likely the people that did not get their data entered were not necessarily the college educated--but that is a guess I my part.
How did you come up with this statistic? Can you provide a source to support it?
"As of 2021, 53.7% of Americans have a college degree. "
It is my casual understanding that according to the US Census estimates as of 2020 that the estimated total is that approximately 37+% of the workforce population (approx. 160,000,000) has a college degree; which works out to approx. 18% of the overall population all together.
A new report from the Lumina Foundation shows that the percentage of working age adults who’ve earned a college degree or other postsecondary credential reached 53.7% in 2021.
According to Lumina’s updated A Stronger Nation, the foundation’s online, interactive tool tracking postsecondary educational attainment, that figure represents a nearly 2 percentage point gain over 2019’s level of 51.9%, and it’s the highest number since the organization began keeping tabs on educational attainment levels more than a decade ago.
https://www.luminafoundation.org/news-and-views/why-counting-degrees-matters/
If you doubt the report,please send your sources. But I don't make up numbers out of the blue. Perhaps you have evidence to show me the report is inaccurate. But there are many reports to show that close to 30% of those with a degree are making no more than $60 grand p/yr. Averages are severely skewered, as are all averages and always make it seem more are making more than do.
Just want to let you know I am working my way through the Census Bureau information at this time and I will let you know my findings soon. I will say with regards to the Lumina Foundation that it is a private organization and their information includes Certificates, which are not Degrees and I have questions about their methodology and whether or not they have included the numbers of persons who have some college education but have not completed a degree program.
For my part I prioritize the developed information of the Census Bureau over and above any private organization and consider the Census Bureau's studies to be a more accurate and complete presentation of educational attainment within the USA.
My question and brief statement should not be construed as being in opposition to anything you are suggesting; but rather I suspect that me and you have some of the same types of concerns. The issue at hand has been of interest to me for several years now and your post has simply served as a motivator for me to delve into the matter once and for all. In fact I am actively considering writing a post for my own Substack that will focus on this particular area of interest.
Okay fine. I have never used any data from the Lumina Foundation before, and I will not swear their information is totally accurate. I believe you are correct about certificates not being the same as a degree. I have two certificates from the same institution I received my A.B. from (B.A, they reverse it, I know not why. I wanted to do some advanced studies and they accommodated me and I received my certificates with the degree. But all the certificates do is say I did the study but they don't qualify me for anything. I got them to improve my chances of getting a full ride for graduate school. I did get accepted, but not the full scholarship, so I didn't have the means to attend. I don't know what value a certificate would be without a degree however.
Or if you're Rand Paul and failed to be certified to become a dentist, I guess you can certify yourself (and start your own certification program---don't know if that's quite the same thing. ) Anyway I will check out the Lumina Foundation and let me know what other information you find out. However, the 2020 census was never completed, Trump shut it down before it was completed, so it might have some gaps. My guess is more than likely the people that did not get their data entered were not necessarily the college educated--but that is a guess I my part.